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TEXAS PRISONS: A PLACE TO DIE
When a federal judge acting under pressure from an appeals court
recently released the Texas prison system from the federal
oversight which it has been under for years, many concluded that
things must be "okay." However, that is far from the truth.
Brenda has liver disease and is so swollen she looks like her
stomach is going to burst open. She can't breathe because of the
fluid in her body from the disease. She is always nauseated She
bleeds from the rectum and from the mouth. She calls for help
and prison staff ignore her. Some days she can get up and move
around and other days she is just too sick. She is at the end of
her disease and in a lot of pain. The other inmates try to help
her but there is not much they can do. She has been refused
medicine many times. She has been placed in what is called a
medical dorm, but it is only called that because it is where
they warehouse sick inmates. No one there is qualified to care
for someone as sick as Brenda. She needs to be in a hospital. Of
Brenda’s situation, another prisoner wrote, "She is swollen with
fluid, her stomach is so far distended it appears it may bust.
She vomits blood, runs a fever and must now sleep siting up,
because the fluid in her body is suffocating her. When she lays
down she chokes continuously and although she saw Dr. West on
Tuesday July 2,02 and he told her she would be hospitalized
soon... we can all see this effort will be made much to late to
help Brenda. I can't even describe what we are seeing happen to
her, while medical ignores it."
Chad is a twenty eight year old prisoner with Lyme Disease.
Despite six years of pleas for some kind of treatment, nothing
happens. Even if his Lyme Disease cannot be cured, Chad’s joint
swelling, and pain can be treated, his seizures can be
controlled with modern medicine. His psychiatric condition has
deteriorated significantly. While he has been previously
assigned diagnoses of Bipolar Disorder and Hyperactivity
Disorder and treated with appropriate medications for both those
conditions, he is not currently being treated with psychiatric
medications. An outside psychiatrist says that it also seems
quite likely he is suffering from a seizure disorder. The
temperature in the segregation unit where he is incarcerated
exceeds 110 degrees Fahrenheit at times in the summer. An
outside physician decries his treatment as "barbaric."
These are real people suffering real pain. Unfortunately, they
find themselves in the prison system of the state of Texas where
such "barbaric" treatment is the norm, not the exception.
Prisoners have been left to die in their cells. They've starved
in infirmaries, languished in their own feces before dying. Care
in the prisons is so bad, inmates say, that they join
experimental drug trials at a university hospital in Galveston
to avoid the care offered in jailhouse infirmaries. Prison
system doctors, relegated by then to administrative functions,
took notice of criticism and began an emergency audit in 1996 of
the medical charts of the inmates who had died that year. The
doctors reviewed 24 charts and concluded that 16 dead inmates
had received improper care. A couple of examples. Alexander
Oris, "starved to death in infirmary," according to the Texas
Department of Criminal Justice's internal review. Michael
Anderson vomited for three days and had no bowel movements for
six days before he died and "appeared to have been neglected in
his cell." The system administration afterwards said they had
made improvements. Yet two years later an attorney representing
Texas convicts in a long-running federal lawsuit over prison
conditions hired corrections system doctors from other states to
conduct another review of prison deaths. These doctors came to
conclusions strikingly similar to those in the prison system's
own study two years earlier at Stiles. They examined 59 deaths
from across the state and found that 20 of the inmates received
poor or very poor care. Sixteen of those 20 deaths were either
"preventable" or "possibly preventable." Care for diabetes and
hypertension was "strikingly poor," the doctors testified. Dr.
John Robertson, who at the time headed the prison health-care
system in New Mexico, said he found that inmates would arrive at
prison clinics with "what by most any reasonable expectation
would be close to a medical emergency, and very little would be
done about it." A federal judge wrote in 1999 that he had heard
evidence of "significant, even deadly, inadequacies" in the
medicine practiced on inmates. Two examples. Ophelia Rangel was
left "lying in feces, menstrual fluid and urine" until she died
of "severe dehydration," the doctors concluded. Robert Lee Brown
died of a stroke and a heart attack after prison health
officials ordered medicine to treat hypertension that caused a
"precipitous lowering of blood pressure." The federal Food and
Drug Administration had warned against this method of treating
hypertension in 1985. Did the state know about these problems?
"I don't think it's possible they could be unaware of it unless
there's no coordination or no looking at the data we looked at,"
Robertson testified. "It would be impossible not to know that
there were serious problems in the system and problems that,
really, again, transcended all units and locations." In the year
2000, prisoners at the Stiles Unit where many of the sickest
prisoners were housed began filing large numbers of complaints
about medical care at the facility.
A few years back Texas put its prisoners in everybody’s favorite
money saving scheme - an HMO. In that system the University of
Texas Medical Branch treats 80 percent of the inmates in 71
prison clinics and a hospital in Galveston. Texas Tech
University in Lubbock takes care of the remaining inmates, using
prison clinics and community hospitals to provide care in West
Texas. One of the goals of an HMO is to limit care in order to
save money, and that can leave prison inmates, who tend to be
sicker than the general population because of their poverty and
their drug and alcohol abuse, in a particularly vulnerable
position. Any number of people can deny them care, from a poorly
trained health care aid to a physician's assistant at a pill
window. Doctors at prison units can override the recommendations
of Galveston specialists and take away medications, work
restrictions and even crutches, walkers and back braces. Among
the problems which have resulted since implementation of the HMO
plan:
*Inmates have been discouraged from getting medication.
*Doctors at local units have ignored what specialists said about
inmates' conditions.
*Infectious diseases such as hepatitis, tuberculosis and
drug-resistant staph have soared.
*An internal medical audit revealed serious lapses in treatment
for HIV and AIDS.
*The Huntsville facility kidney dialysis unit lost its
accreditation.
*At least eight prison unit physicians have had their licenses
restricted by state medical boards.
With the advent of managed care in 1994, all medication had to
be taken at pill windows, and no one was allowed what were
called "KOP," or Keep On Person, pill packs. In most units, the
pill window is open only twice a day, once from 3 to 5 in the
morning, and once in the evening, usually from 4 to 6 p.m.,
which tends to fall during mealtime. There is a water fountain
at the pill station where the inmates must take their medicine
under the eye of a guard. If 70 to 80 inmates require
medication, the wait for a pill can be onerous and long,
especially if an inmate is disabled or ill. And if the line is
too long and all the patients are not served by closing time,
the window is simply shut, and those who didn't get their
medication have to come back later. In some cases, inmates have
to choose between eating dinner or getting their pills.
Chronically ill patients, such as those infected with TB,
sometimes simply give up hope and don't bother to take their
medication. For many inmates, it's not worth the hassle of going
to the infirmary and waiting three days to see a doctor for
something like the flu, a cold or a headache. As a result, drug
costs drop. Prisoner complaints not surprisingly have
skyrocketed. Said a nurse who worked in this system, "… from the
beginning you are taught to treat them mean…There was never
anything wrong with an inmate. Anybody that treats them nice is
called an inmate lover…A nurse is supposed to look at an
inmate," she says, "but sometimes they'll turn down a request if
they judge the inmate has already been seen. They'll write a
'no-show' on appointments because the inmate can't get out for
security reasons. A guard might fail to get them out for various
reasons, or there might be a lockdown. A lot of focus is on
getting rid of the sick-call requests." Most measures of
health-care quality in Texas prisons are secret, according to
state law and rulings by state Attorney General’s Office.
Databases of inmates' medical grievances, findings of doctors
who review the deaths of inmates, inspection reports of dialysis
facilities, correspondence among prison health-care
administrators and inspections of prison health-care facilities
are all private in Texas.
As mentioned above, since 1993 University of Texas Medical
Branch (UTMB) has operated both, the prison hospital and most of
the prison clinics. But the care in the clinics, in the prison
was not the same at the hospital in Galveston. Inmates knew it,
and they also knew there was one sure-fire way to get to
Galveston: Join an experimental drug trial. Become a biomedical
research "guinea pig" for UTMB. Until late 2000, UTMB conducted
dozens and possibly hundreds of trials without telling state
prison officials what it was doing — violating a long-standing
prison system rule. Inmates knew about the trials, however, and
as they came to understand the failures of the prison
health-care system, they agreed to join the drug tests. Their
decisions weren't so much willing as they were fatalistic. The
voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential,"
reads the Nuremberg Code of 1947, which was drafted in direct
response to the sheer barbarity of Nazi-era medical experiments
on Jews and other captive groups. "[The] person involved should
have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to
be able to exercise free power of choice, without the
intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress,
over-reaching or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion.
" Because little in prison is done without any element of force,
the Nuremberg Code should have ended most research on prisoners.
It didn't. However, following many exposes and investigations by
the early 1980s, such practices had been greatly diminished.
Texas, however, was at the forefront of the few states
continuing this notorious tradition. Federal officials found
"scant evidence" in a July 2000 inspection that the University
of Texas Medical Branch had followed regulations for protecting
prisoners enrolled in medical research trials. Convicts had not
been fully informed of the risks in some tests. In one study,
the federal regulators alleged, prisoners with ovarian cancer
were asked to sign a consent form that vastly overstated the
benefits of participation. In more than half the 25 UTMB
research projects it reviewed, the federal Office of Human
Research Protections (OHRP) found problems. According to federal
regulations, research in prisons must fit into one of four
permissible categories: studies of the possible causes and
effects of incarceration and criminal behavior; studies of
prisons as institutional structures or of prisoners as
incarcerated persons; research on conditions affecting prisoners
as a group; and research involving a therapy likely to benefit
the inmate involved. In all cases, studies are required to
present no more than a "minimal" risk to the prisoner. Yet in
many of the clinical trials reported to OHRP, those regulations
were clearly violated. A September 14, 2000 letter from the feds
to UTMB listed numerous research projects that did not fall into
any of the categories of permissible research on prisoners,
finding "scant evidence" that the university’s institutional
review board followed federal regulations when it reviewed and
approved the studies. Documents obtained through a Freedom of
Information Act request offer insight into the types of studies
conducted on prisoners at UTMB. Listed studies included those on
induction of labor among pregnant inmates; a study of different
methods of obtaining biopsies from inmates; a Phase I clinical
trial (used to test a new drug or treatment for the first time
in a small group) involving an experimental HIV vaccine; and
another using a new experimental therapy of the intrahepatic
(directly into the liver) delivery of a powerful chemotherapy
drug. Perhaps most shocking was a Phase I study, ongoing since
1997, that used prisoners to test a radically experimental
approach to treating lung cancer. In that study, the prisoner
was anesthetized and then connected to a machine called the
BioLogic-HT System. According to the consent form, the test
subject would agree to be heavily sedated and then to have tubes
inserted into veins in the leg and neck to obtain blood. The
blood removed from the volunteer would then be heated by the
machine and returned to the body, inducing a dangerously high
body temperature of 108.5 degrees and resulting in a sustained
"hyperthermia" for two hours. The consent form for the study
cites a long list of serious potential side effects, including
brain and spinal cord damage, loss of limbs, heart attack,
hallucination, memory loss, burns at body pressure points,
congestive heart failure, internal bleeding, seizures and death.
While consent forms for experimental studies typically do list a
wide array of possible complications, this form carried the
additionally disturbing warning that the university would not
compensate a research subject in case of injury. Participants in
the study signed a form that read: " I understand that I cannot
... receive financial remuneration for any injuries resulting
from my participation in this project." Federal regulations
specifically prohibit any language in informed consent documents
whereby a subject is made to release, or appear to release, the
investigator or the institution from liability for negligence.
Yet while UTMB was given specific guidance on how to improve its
reporting, reviewing and informed consent procedures, at no
point, confirms the OHRP, were any of the prisoners in these
studies interviewed about their experiences as test subjects.
Paperwork was submitted by the university in response to
concerns raised by the OHRP. On the basis of that
paperwork—although no further site visits were made—the
researchers were given the go-ahead by the OHRP in mid-January
2001 to resume their work, although it is unclear which of the
objectionable studies were allowed to continue.
Keith Curry, a Washington-based psychologist issued damning
findings in a report he prepared for prisoners' attorneys in the
Ruiz prison reform lawsuit. Curry, who works for Applied
Forensics LLP, is an expert witness who has worked on prison
mental-health cases in several other states. Curry reviewed the
records of 68 convicts who had been in segregation from one
month to 17 years. The average was 5.2 years. In all, prison
officials say, a little more than 6,700 mentally ill inmates are
in administrative segregation statewide. Curry reported finding
mentally ill convicts whose medication had been improperly
halted and were too disoriented to appeal. A shortage of trained
staff meant that mentally ill inmates weren't properly monitored
by prison medical personnel. Routine blood tests weren't taken
or logged into medical records, despite a requirement that tests
be given with certain drugs. Inmates suffered painful and
debilitating side effects from their drug treatment, but
received no proper treatment in response. He says, "The
provision of mental health care in Texas prisons is abysmal."
Curry adds, "People who are coming out of this system are
infinitely worse than when they went in. A system like this is
not good for (inmates) and not good for Texas."
Some folks are benefiting though with public money being sent to
UTMB to provide health services to Texas prisoners. Some
$668,000, for example, went right into the pockets of 60 UTMB
physicians as bonuses, despite the protests of the prison board.
Some Texas tax money appears to have been spent helping UTMB bid
on providing health services for jails in New York City and for
prison systems in other states. And a quarter of a million
dollars goes to two highly paid -- and apparently underworked --
administrators who were once employed by the prison system.
On and on, I could go and this is only medical conditions. You
can imagine what other conditions are like. And this is only
Texas. The end of federal oversight does not mean conditions are
now acceptable. As the letter below (as well as the first two
stories above) show, all is far from well. If you know anyone
who can look into the situation of medical care in Texas
prisons, get them to do it. If you are a healthcare worker of
any kind, get your union, your professional organization,
whatever, to take a stand on prison healthcare and the brutality
of Texas prisons. One other action you might consider. Send an
Email to the "Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare
Organizations" at complaint@jcaho.org and ask them to look into
the services provided by University of Texas Medical Branch to
Texas prisons.
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Letter from Mary Vallier
5/31/2002
My name is Mary Vallier TDCJ #762401, I have been in the system
for two years, and one other stretch. I was diagnosed with
cirrhosis of the liver and hepatitis C.
I was released in April of 99 and returned on a violation in
December of 2000. Since my incarceration here my health has
seriously declined due to lack of proper medical care.
I am in the end stages of cirrhosis now, and all they tell me is
that there is nothing they can do for me, well thetas what they
have told me since I was diagnosed. There are things they could
do for me ,but don't.
I applied for special needs parole and was denied. I had to take
it upon myself to apply for that.
All medical ever tells me is that I am dying and I have to
accept that, well I've always been a fighter, but the fight is
getting harder. These people over medical here, in my opinion,
would not make good animal doctors.
You just cannot imagine the mental anguish I go through daily
knowing that my life is in the hands of a bunch of un
professionals. I fully intend to fight until I draw my last
breath, to try and help others in the same situation and see
justice done for all of the ones that have suffered due to the
neglect of medical care here.
The only medication I have been on for years are vitamins and
water pills. I have only had one ultra sound on my liver, no
biopsy. They only speculate on the serious aspects of my
condition, due to my critical labs and symptoms. I have taken so
many water pills that my kidneys don't work on their own.
If there is anyone out there that reads this letter. I am not
asking for sympathy, only empathy, Just because a person makes
mistakes in their life don't mean they deserve to die in the
process. Hopefully there will be an attorney or even a judge
that will look into these matters, everyone in the system can't
be telling a lie. I really do think that these accusations
against the State prison Medical Facilities and U.T.M.B. should
be looked into. Ask yourselves if you had a loved one in the
system would you want then to be neglected this way? Take a
chance on us, we are only women trying to survive on the inside.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. If there is
anyone out there that may be willing to help, please contact me.
I go home August 23rd address upon release has been provided
Update: Mary was rushed by ambulance to hospital and she was
sent home as she is dying.. they denied her special needs parole
when she had asked and made her spend her last days in mental
anguish, neglected and without decent medical care.
Mary Vallier #762401
1401 State School Road
Gatesville Texas 76599
Interested Attorneys:
910 Chance St.
Wichita Falls, Texas 76306
Sources: Family members of prisoners, Houston Press, Texas
Prison Labor Union, Austin American Statesman, In These Times,
Cox News Service, Austin Chronicle
(Please See Update Below)
Update: The following information came in today. This is in
regards to Brenda mentioned above.
From James West, M.D.
Cluster Medical director
Gatesville Cluster
Re: Offender Brenda Doss
TDCJ-ID #1013935
Brenda Doss is a 43y/o cirrhotic with a history of bleeding
esophageal varices. For the last 4 weeks she has been having
shortness of breath and nocturnal dyspnea secondary to ascites,
possible early failure and consuming 3 liters of fluid a day. I
have put her on a fluid restriction and increasing doses of
Lasix and Enalapril to mobilize her fluid. To date she has lost
8 pounds. Today I added Spironolactone to her medications. I
will see her weekly until she is no longer dyspneic. Record
review shows no complaints of vomiting blood in the last 6
months or more. I never told her she would be hospitalized soon.
She has a G.I. clinic follow- up scheduled. She is being seen on
a weekly basis now because of her complaints of shortness of
breath, not because of any pressure put on the medical staff.
She was seen in Galveston 8 times last year and she has been
seen in our clinic 10 times by a primary care provider this
year. I hardly think that this represents her being "left to
die" or "ignoring" her
condition. Chart search shows no recorded fever in the last 6
months.
Dr. James West MD
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From Brenda to an outside advocate:
I just wanted to drop a line to say a few things about me and my
illness. I may not spell some of the things that good, but
you'll know what it is.
These are the illnesses I have
1)I am a diabetic
2)I have hepatitis b and c
3)Amonia in my blood
4)Cirrossis of the liver(liver failure)
6)My stomach is so full of fluid look like I have 2 babies
7)Gall stones
8)I get so weak, some mornings I can't even get up unless I feel
like
throwing up. The doctor gave me some finagrin for it.
9)High blood pressure
10)High colesterol
11)Nuropthy in my legs and feet
12)My feet are cracking, which is not good for a diabetic. I
tried to tell the doctor, she didn't do anything for me, she
just brushed me away every time I complained about it... My eye
is bloodshot really bad and I told the nurse today when I went
to get my insulin. She wouldn't examine me, she told me to drop
a sick call. One thing is I am scared to write this letter, will
you make sure you won't let the people do anything to retaliate.
But also I am so scared to die in here. Please help me. I am so
sick my eyes are black underneath. I am laying down as I write
because every time I sit up I get dizzy. Please help me. I don't
want to die in here. They say that there is nothing else they
can do for me…. I was throwing up blood and a nurse came in to
check me. Well guess what she brought me..2 antacids and for me
to drop a sick call. I signed the papers for you to get my
medical records…Thanks Brenda
................
Dr. West does not choose to acknowledge many of Brenda’s
complaints. In regards to those complaints he does acknowledge
("…shortness of breath and nocturnal dyspnea secondary to
ascites, possible early failure…), he says he will "… see her
weekly…" Remember this is a person who has diabetes, liver
failure, hepatitis B and C. A once a week visit is totally
inadequate care. Even taking Dr. West at his word does a prison
cell sound like the place for Brenda to be?
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I do not agree with the death penalty.. Yes I
believe that people should go to jail for what they
did wrong, but everyone deserves a second chance.. I
am writing a male right now that is on death row
that I feel should not be on it. He is a warm
hearted man. He deserves to be out or at least off
of death row....
It saddens me to read
about the death row inmates. I believe there is no
way for me to understand their pain and suffering
but I can tell you for sure how a victim of rape and
child molestation feels. As a Christian I forgive
them, as a victim I want them to rotten in hell. We
are all entitled of our own opinion and that is
mine.
I used to be all for
the Death Penalty.I was molested, raped, and abused
from the time I was 8 until I was big enough at 14
to lay out a man with a rock.I had so much hate in
me and like many others turned to drugs to medicate
my pain. I almost killed a trick when I was 26 yrs
old. Made me think about the death sentence a little
different.
Now with the use of DNA, look how many people have
been released from prison after doing many long
years of time that no amount of "Oops...sorry! Kiss
kiss!" can change. We all know there are so many
innocent people in jail. Most are poor. Money buys
freedom honey and that's a fact. Judges, police and
lawyers are just people. They make mistakes also. I
know, many of them are Tricks, they pull down their
pants and pay their money just like Joe Blow down
the street.
Nikki Nichols
dnichols1951@yahoo.com
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you would like your view posted please let us know &
please place the words "Visitor's View" in your
subject field.
Death row is a
very delicate and in a way special topic, because it
deal with human beings life. I am currently in
college double majoring in Sociology and Psychology,
and yes it will be very helpful to learn more about
death row.
As a Swede I can hardly understand the meaning of a
death penalty. When I look at it from the victim's
point of view and from that of his/her relatives'
point of view the execution of the offender will not
resurrect the victim and the offender can never pay
back the loss of a beloved relative by giving his
own life for a compensation. In many if not most
cases we are dealing with mentally disordered people
who run a great risk of committing horrible
crimes,which they can't be held responsible for. In
our country most of the people you set on a death
row in USA end up in a mental institution and get
psychiatric aid in stead of a death penalty.
My best regards,
Erik Forsgren
Sweden
lillaerik@hotmail.com
THE REALITY OF
MURDER
Hello,
First, let me introduce myself, my name is LeAnn
Poile and I am the published author of "Angels of
Our Heart." I am sure that there are many that
approach
you after reading some of the content you have
written on the Internet. I (as the others I am sure)
feel
that my quest to reach you is unique. I am a
published author. I write about murder victims, what
they were like in life, rather than the ways they
died. I allow family members and friends of murder
victims to write about anything they wish their
murdered loved ones to be remembered for. You can
view my website at
www.geocities.com/angelsofourheart or
www.leannpoile.com.
I am in the midst of publishing another titled 'The
Reality of Murder.' I wish to also include stories
from those on death row or doing life sentences,
facing an altogether different sense of the word
murder, that of which is legal. The different
insight ones like yourself could give to the general
public would bring a lot of awareness to those of us
who have no idea what it is like to be where you are
and to put a face to death row. If you are
interested, please feel free to email me. I assure
you that this project is sincere and is meant only
to help others like yourself and those of us who
need to know what it is like to be in your shoes.
Feel free to send this
email to as many as you believe would be interested.
LeAnn Poile, Author
AngelsofOurHeart@aol.com
The Death penalty
is making murder legal. The one being killed has
killed now the state gets its turn to murder and
makes it legal. Why is their a death penalty is it
for justice or is the word justice a nice way of
saying revenge so the Mothers and Fathers of the
convicted paying with their lives are silenced by
the roar of the crowd cheering Justice will prevail.
When in fact it is an economic reason to put these
people to death . The cost effective equation comes
into play.The days of the eye for an eye and a tooth
for a tooth are behind us in the old testament when
their were no prison systems and a town or village
was also a kingdom. Their were safe towns that the
accused could find refuge for the lifetimes of the
accusers. This was the justice of their day. We are
suppose to be a more civilized world today but it is
a fact that in the 20th century we this civilized
world murdered over 150,000,000 people in our wars
and rumor of wars. I wonder how many of those were
innocent victims of mass executions? Dare I venture
to guess ,No I need not guess they all were. How
many in our prisons are innocent? We are now finding
more and more by way of DNA testing which in its
self proves their is a valid reason to stop
execution States from performing their so-called
duty. Like the henchman of OLE Adolph loved to say
"I was only following orders so it's wasn't my fault
the innocent had to die.. We are all going to DIE we
are all terminal so the death penalty is hanging
over all our heads. So why not let nature take it's
course and let time do its duty. In doing so we may
be allowing an innocent person find his way home. It
is better to allow 10 guilty to live in prison than
to execute 1 innocent person.
Thank you sincerely. I know what it is like to lose
someone dear to crime and it's stupidity.
TO whom it may
concern.
You say you know what it's like to lose a loved one
to crime, and it's stupidity, which is why I decided
to write to you, because I survive a murder victim.
I have decided to forgive his killer, and I am now
attempting to contact him, and start a dialuoge..
I am still for the death penalty. I no longer want
greg to die, but I still beleive that they're are
some animals who deserve the death penalty. Wesley
allan Dodd, Richard Allan Davis to name 2. Both
child tormentors, and killers. Although Davis's
victim lived, He cut off her forearms, and she lives
with prostetics. He left her for dead.
How is the death penalty not a good idea in these
cases? What happened to self responsibility? What
happened to paying for your crimes against humanity?
You mention the hitler execution gangs who fell back
on the idea that "orders were orders". I get the
same bullwark from the inmates. "wrong place, wrong
time". "I made a mistake". The ending of the
innocents you mention.. a mistake in those mass
graves? Thats what murder is, and murder with
special circumstances culls the death penalty in my
state. So if your going to compare the nazi's
killers, they are the same as the death row inmates.
Each took a deliberate action to take human life. in
some cases multiple times. (greg killed 3)
I agree it is a sad thing to have innocent men on
death row, and overcrowding in a huge problem 600 in
a space designed for 70. So obviously the death
penalty is being meeted out far too often when LWOP
will do just as well. Prison is not the answer to
easing societies woes I agree., but The death
penalty, in my opinion, does have it's place.
Especiall when dealing with child killers. They
should die. They are predatores, and no rehab can
change them. That's proven. What do you do with
people Like that who feed off of our young?
I hope to hear from you. I tried not to be harsh,
but you can tell I am very passionate about this
issue. Please let me know what you think.
Annie.
Bumblebears1@aol.com
DEATH PENALTY OPINIONS
to whom it may concern,
when pleas bargains are a hope for a lessor sentence
,with coroction,where does that leave people
bargaining for their lives? murder should be no more
condoned by the taxpayer than it is for the judicial
system! america claims to live in a christian
society yet condons the old testement of an eye for
an eye! where's Jesus in this judicial equation?you
can not put to death a human being , if you believe
that it is Gods judgement that counts , then be
Jesus in your judgement. It is,Cruel and
unauthourized judgement in a chrisian
society.OXY_MORON! people serving a 3 strikes you're
out? what kind of pool or lottery is that .to me
this is KREMLIN type logic and i dis approve. logic
is TRUTH not a game between the better , richer ,or
favoured laywer. if justice matters in any country
or republic it should always and formost be tell the
truth without fear of reprisal!.as is it is easier
to accept some guilt and penalty than fight for
truth and justice becuse the prosecuter always
prevails. innosence be dammed! i totalaly disagree
with the death sentence! |
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